TikTok is tracking you, even if you don't use the app (bbc.com)
72 points by belter 5 days ago | 43 comments



xnx 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

"TikTok" in the headline for views but every ad system is sucking up as much data as it possibly can: cross-site tracking pixels, cookies, device ids, fingerprinting, app snooping, extension snooping, etc.

> "TikTok empowers users with transparent information about its privacy practices and gives them multiple tools to customise their experience," a TikTok spokesperson says. "Advertising pixels are industry standard and used widely across social and media platforms"

Such Doublespeak—the word empower really means enfeeble and privacy its opposite.

cdrnsf 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Modern ads and tracking are effectively malware. Treat them and their operators as hostile and block everything you can.

This wasn't a problem until it was done by a Chinese company, when American companies (Meta, X, Google, etc.) spied on us we saw it as a triumph of entrepreneurism.
eli 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

TokTok is infamously an american company now

Got a mouse in your pocket? What’s this “we” business?

The “we” I was around was and is vehemently opposed to American companies doing this sort of thing.


I've been tracking this issue since the Cambridge Analytica scandal. The "we" who celebrated it was mostly Silicon Valley VCs and tech press, not everyday users who consistently rated data privacy as their top concern.


Some people might find this useful. I'd be interested to know if there's a more complete list out there.

https://github.com/danhorton7/pihole-block-tiktok/blob/main/...

runjake 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Why are there IPs in a DNS hosts file? That’s not how those work, even for Pi-hole, unless something’s changed in recent years.
blakeu 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Pi-hole hosts files actually support IP mappings for local DNS overrides. The IP approach lets you route TikTok domains to a honeypot server for analytics—way more valuable for monetizing privacy tools than pure blocking.


Related: Facebook owner reportedly paid Republican firm to push message TikTok is ‘the real threat’

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/mar/30/facebook-...

Also relevant: https://paulgraham.com/say.html

hiprob 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Same applies to Google, Facebook, Twitter, you name it.

TikTok, more than any other app, seems to be aware of things that I talk about. I'm not big on conspiracy theories (well until the past six months or so), but I really wonder if TikTok has figured out a way to listen with the microphone on my phone. I will be chatting about the most random thing -- needing a new washing machine -- and then I'll suddenly get some washing machine add in the next hour. Or someone will mention a movie being snubbed for the Oscar's, and then an edit for that movie pops up.

I never did a search or anything else on any app on any devices related to these things, but somehow TikTok seemed to know. Maybe coincidence that I have heightened awareness of... but it does seem different.


Will Pi-hole with good blocking lists remediate this?

[delayed]
amelius 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

When can we finally make user tracking illegal?

Tracking pixels are routine in emails, not just websites, so the article is incomplete as it does not address how to guard against those.
bxparks 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

The solution to turn off "load images" in the web email clients.

One side effect is that Capital One thinks that it has the wrong email address for me:

  "You haven’t opened an email from us lately, 
  so we’re checking in to make sure your contact
  information is up to date."
It keeps sending me that every month or two, which is kinda annoying.
xnx 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Don't load images, or use GMail which loads images through a proxy.

Facebook was doing tracking pixels in the 00s. It probably worked even better then because stuff that's currently in apps was on the web back then and fewer people ran adblockers.

Every party in the advertising ecosystem should be assumed to be doing this (and your adblocker should be trying its best to block it).

NickC25 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

You think an app blessed by the CCP isn't going to track you?
xnx 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I see no difference in the level of tracking in TikTok vs. any other app/advertiser. What that data gets used for is anyone's guess.

Blessed by CCP or by Larry Ellison? I don't know which is worse
sama 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

At least TikTok's honest about who they're selling you to.


TikTok is now a Zionist operation being run by (former?) members of Mossad's Unit 8200, which is like the NSA's cybersecurity group. So monitoring everyone is literally the point of TikTok now. Meta, Google, Apple, and others are also participating in it. Silicon Valley not actively mobilizing against this shows how geeks are complicit with genocide and the systems that drive it.

In America, yes.

But this article is from the BBC so they would arguably be talking about the one that's available in Europe which is still controlled by China.


> TikTok is now a Zionist operation being run by (former?) members of Mossad's Unit 8200, which is like the NSA's cybersecurity group.

Bold claims like this need citations.

rednafi 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Don't have that brainrot engine on your phone - problem solved.

The article says in the title how that won't solve the problem. Their chief solution is guarding against invisible tracking pixels all over the web, and how using a properly equipped browser and extensions can hopefully mitigate them. I found the article's recommendation of suitable browsers to be quite poor: a brush off to Firefox and no mention of LibreWolf, IronFox, etc al.

Article title aside, your argument sounds similar to "alcoholism? Just stop buying alcohol"
runjake 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Sorry, that will not work.

FTA:

“TikTok collects sensitive and potentially embarrassing information about you even if you've never used the app.”

patn 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Been dealing with web tracking since the DoubleClick days. The only real solution is a combo of uBlock Origin and Firefox with total cookie protection turned on. Has worked reliably for years.

drewi 5 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Most people don't realize the tracking happens through embedded share buttons and "Login with TikTok" on third-party sites - even if you've never installed the app. Tools like uBlock Origin or Pi-hole can block these domains at the network level.