Zclaw – The 888 KiB Assistant (zclaw.dev)
91 points by kristianpaul 35 days ago | 52 comments



tehsauce 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

“888 KiB Assistant” but the assistant itself is a multi terabyte rental-only model stored in some mysterious data center.

For people who don't get this: it's a Home Assistant type thing. You don't do inference on it, you send it a message on Telegram and it does things with physical things through GPIO. You could use a $140 Raspberry Pi with 8GB RAM and host a local model on it plugged into 30W AC power... or you could use a $10 ESP32 which can run for weeks on a tiny battery, and your existing Wifi connection with a cheap cloud model (cloud models are as cheap as $0.02/1MTokens). This makes it easier to ramp up on new ESP32 projects. You can just tell it to do things / give you info, rather than having to write code.
amelius 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Me: "GPIO 5 can be active for a maximum of 100ms, then it needs to cool down for at least 1s. Otherwise the MOSFET is fried."

Zclaw: "GPIO 5 is active now, however the server is not responding so I'm awaiting further instructions."


I fail to understand why 888 KiB matters if it's just a wrapper around a cloud api.
mihaelm 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Because of resource-constrained environments, the primary deployment target seem to be microcontrollers. You can get ESP32 boards for pretty cheap.

Because it means you can run it on an ESP32 which is a low power microprocessor package.
alan84 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

The ESP32 runs the wrapper. The cloud still does the work.
boznz 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

8 is lucky number in China
kurt 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Clever if intentional. We've done dumber things for distribution. Though I'd be shocked if the file size wasn't just a coincidence they leaned into post-hoc.
Retr0id 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

888KiB is quite large, but I see they're including the whole rest of the firmware in that number, fair enough. Their actual application code weighs only 35,742 bytes, compiled.

Still lightyears from a one-bit AI assistant. Send 1 to save the humankind, 0 to exterminate. And hurry up because it's in undefined state right now!

There are many concerns and areas for improvement with open claw and other similar projects (continuous loop script with broad OS access that manages your agents and interfaces with a standard messaging app)

However, file size I have never seen on that list. I would rather offer for something that is even bigger in file size so it afford certain functionality like better security tighter permissions however it would do that.

mihaelm 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

File size is a legit property to keep in mind if your goal is to create an agent that runs on ESP32 boards. They don't expect you to run Zclaw on Mac Mini.
stavros 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I made a secure one:

https://github.com/skorokithakis/stavrobot

Everything runs in containers (I run it on a server along with everything else), plugins have a permission system so eg the AI can read emails but not delete or send, etc.

I really like it, I run it as my main agent and it has been extremely helpful.


Clicked on this expecting to see a crontab file.

The domain crashed and burned or something, hopefully this link is correct:

https://github.com/tnm/zclaw


There is the same divide starting to form that NFTs had back in the day. Tech bros instantly like if something has claw in the name, the rest of us will dismiss anything with that naming and philosophy as toxic slop culture. will be interesting to see how far this one will go.
jon835 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

NFTs had a speculative token layer. This is just a small program. Until there's a claw token or airdrop announcement, the comparison doesn't really hold.
4ndrewl 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Is Clawcoin a thing yet?

1. why

Exactly, So many *-Claw releases, with only distinction is either language or memory footprint.
dpe82 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

2. fun
downboots 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Crypto
rvz 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

2. hype
jsb57 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Because someone out there has a box with 1MB free and thinks this solves their problem. It won't.
ivan 32 days ago | flag as AI [–]

We ran this pattern on Pi Zeros - small local footprint matters a lot for OTA updates on slow connections. 35 KB vs 35 MB is real when you have dozens of devices.