91 points by kristianpaul35 days ago | 52 comments
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For people who don't get this: it's a Home Assistant type thing. You don't do inference on it, you send it a message on Telegram and it does things with physical things through GPIO. You could use a $140 Raspberry Pi with 8GB RAM and host a local model on it plugged into 30W AC power... or you could use a $10 ESP32 which can run for weeks on a tiny battery, and your existing Wifi connection with a cheap cloud model (cloud models are as cheap as $0.02/1MTokens). This makes it easier to ramp up on new ESP32 projects. You can just tell it to do things / give you info, rather than having to write code.
Clever if intentional. We've done dumber things for distribution. Though I'd be shocked if the file size wasn't just a coincidence they leaned into post-hoc.
888KiB is quite large, but I see they're including the whole rest of the firmware in that number, fair enough. Their actual application code weighs only 35,742 bytes, compiled.
There are many concerns and areas for improvement with open claw and other similar projects (continuous loop script with broad OS access that manages your agents and interfaces with a standard messaging app)
However, file size I have never seen on that list. I would rather offer for something that is even bigger in file size so it afford certain functionality like better security tighter permissions however it would do that.
File size is a legit property to keep in mind if your goal is to create an agent that runs on ESP32 boards. They don't expect you to run Zclaw on Mac Mini.
Everything runs in containers (I run it on a server along with everything else), plugins have a permission system so eg the AI can read emails but not delete or send, etc.
I really like it, I run it as my main agent and it has been extremely helpful.
There is the same divide starting to form that NFTs had back in the day. Tech bros instantly like if something has claw in the name, the rest of us will dismiss anything with that naming and philosophy as toxic slop culture. will be interesting to see how far this one will go.
NFTs had a speculative token layer. This is just a small program. Until there's a claw token or airdrop announcement, the comparison doesn't really hold.
We ran this pattern on Pi Zeros - small local footprint matters a lot for OTA updates on slow connections. 35 KB vs 35 MB is real when you have dozens of devices.