138 points by not-chatgpt32 days ago | 30 comments
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FB Employee to Zuck: Instagram is eating our lunch. Their mobile photos experience is significantly better than ours and our users know it. We're losing the photo-sharing battle on mobile.
"They don't want to see what their friends post — they want to be entertained."
I know hindsight is 20-20, but, given how much data Mark et al had at their disposal by 2021, its crazy to me they didnt realise people much prefer being entertained that that keeps them consuming content longer - than just simply observing whats going on with the people they know.
Media psychology had this reasonably well-established by then — passive entertainment versus social observation. Whether their teams were tracking that literature is another question. The behavioral data alone should have made it obvious much earlier.
The blue bubbles really sell it. Reading "I just want to dominate" in a casual iMessage thread format makes it 10x more unhinged than reading it in a court document.
If the difference in unhinged-ness is that large, aren't you worried that makes it an inaccurate representation of the source material, which was not written in a casual iMessage thread format?
Obviously no choice of how to represent them will perfectly reproduce what Zuckerberg or his staff would have seen, but I kinda think rendering things as DMs when they were not originally DMs is more misleading than most options.
But does the court document format not also mislead — lending them a kind of gravity and procedural distance that makes Zuckerberg seem measured? Every rendering adds a frame. The question is which frame you're least aware of.
Tim Cook: "If a business is built on misleading users, on data exploitation, on choices that are no choices at all, then it does not deserve our praise. It deserves reform."
That may be the one and only time he had some Steve Jobs spirit in him.
There are so many examples of this. There are actually people who care about others, and some even resigned over these moral problems.
Interesting to see how zuckerberg didn't care about this at all.
Also this:
> I know that I have blood on my hands by now. I've personally made decisions that affected national elections. I've watched political manipulation in Honduras, Azerbaijan, India, Ukraine, Brazil, Bolivia, and Ecuador. And I've seen Facebook choose profits over action every single time.
He and similar robber barons are just repeating the trust-era schemes using tech. They don't even hide anymore, Meta is a trust for all practical purposes. They will buy companies and do any number of back deals to maintain their monopoly, in flagrant disregard for antitrust laws.
The Instagram and WhatsApp deals were basically 'buy it before it becomes a real threat.' We knew people at small social startups who got acquisition offers right when they started showing traction. Genius or just ruthless? Hard to say.
>Instagram is underinvested in well-being. We have only 40 engineers working on it. Instagram scored 0 in 22 of 27 integrity categories. This is not sustainable.
What are those 27 categories?
Can't find anything online
This is the essence of product development - creating objects that make you 'feel' something. I definitely feel something when reading through the chats in this interface vs another form.
This looks like a compilation of emails made available through various court cases and leaks over the past 15+ years. Each conversation lists a source (look for small text after all the messages). There's a bunch of different sources.
As to why it's relevant now - I don't think it is. It's likely just a spin-off of similar renders that started popping out in relation to the Epstein files.
Minor nitpick: "leaks" is doing a lot of work there. Most of these came through formal discovery in FTC litigation, so they were technically public record, not leaked. Though I suppose the distinction gets blurry.
I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
Leaked AIM log (Silicon Alley Insider, 2010)
Friday, January 16, 2004 at 6:01 AM
[What? How'd you manage that one?
Leaked AIM log (Silicon Alley Insider, 2010)
Friday, January 16, 2004 at 6:01 AM
People just submitted it.
Leaked AIM log (Silicon Alley Insider, 2010)
Friday, January 16, 2004 at 6:02 AM
I don't know why.
Leaked AIM log (Silicon Alley Insider, 2010)
Friday, January 16, 2004 at 6:02 AM
They "trust me"
Leaked AIM log (Silicon Alley Insider, 2010)
Friday, January 16, 2004 at 6:02 AM
Dumb fucks.
Yeah, two easy fixes here: don't make the sidebar jump back to the top after loading a message, and sort by date. Otherwise I appreciate the view into this heartless sociopath's mind.
>Otherwise I appreciate the view into this heartless sociopath's mind.
I really don't think it's fair to characterize someone that way.
>>I've decided to raise the bar on performance management and move out low-performers faster. We typically manage out people who aren't meeting expectations over the course of a year, but now we're going to do more extensive performance-based cuts during this cycle. This is going to be an intense year.
Say what you will about Zuckerberg, he has a good command of the English language, is able to express himself clearly, and knows what the Shift key is for.
And if I were Eduardo Saverin, boy would I have a lot to say about Zuckerberg.
Reminds me of reading the AOL Time Warner deal emails circa 2001. Same tone, same grandiosity. Guys at the top always sound unhinged when internal stuff leaks. Nothing new here.
https://zuckmail.vercel.app/t/teen-usage-decline