Germany Mandates ODF for Public Administration (linuxiac.com)
173 points by mvdwoord 15 days ago | 31 comments



0x484558 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

A decade ago, the largest concern with corporate monocultures in software was quarterly-cycle thinking that would degrade the quality of software on which governments rely.

Now, we also see the active weaponization of trade and threats to supply chains, and it is no longer just about dark corporate patterns but about dependence on private entities tied to the U.S. in its slide away from democracy.

I firmly believe that promoting software that exposes governments to diplomatic coercion should be treated as treason and scrutinized by intelligence.

avra 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Exchanging files in ODF seems much more frictionless to me than in DOCX. Thankfully, there is much better support nowadays for both formats.

Those small tornados you are noticing are the result of a million .xlsx jockeys sucking in a breath.
dethos 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

This should be applied to the whole EU.
jimnotgym 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Well done Germany
amai 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

This is from the so called "Deutschland Stack":

https://deutschland-stack.gov.de/gesamtbild/

But note there is also a "Euro Stack":

https://eurostack.eu/

elcapitan 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Probably a good idea to create a bunch of "Simple docx to odf converter" websites with officially looking UI soon :D

The mandate should be for open, replicable, and fully published formats. If you want to be super-strict, add the requirement that there have to be at least two fully interoperable implementations under the control of two separate organizations.

Locking everyone into a particular format is always a bad idea.

abdusco 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

If only they had web pages for submitting those documents, but no, you gotta send them by snail mail.
pjmlp 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Lets see how long it holds, being hopeful it will stick.

Some NRW libraries used to be on SuSE, are nowadays Windows on kiosk mode.

LightBug1 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Sounds positive. Good job, Germany.

Fricken apply this thinking to as much software / formats as we can.

amai 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Does MS Word support ODF?
piker 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Just in time for everyone and their brother to vibe code a docx editor. This doesn't make much sense except as a token gesture that will make everyone's life worse.

[Edit: I work on a Word competitor for lawyers. If anyone here thinks this type of move does anything but further entrench someone like Microsoft who has the resources to implement every format under the sun, I’ve got some news for you. So if it’s not anti-monopolistic, then what? Do you actually think the User prefers it? Honestly?

The world standardizes on VHS two decades ago. How is mandating betamax going to benefit anyone other than the established players and box ticking bureaucrats?]

helij 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I've been using ODF professionally and privately for years now without any issues. What's the problem your side?
raj443 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Works fine until you need to share with someone using Word. Which is still everyone.
tredre3 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

In your roadmap you listed pdf support, so hopefully your system already has abstractions in place to handle multiple input formats without rewriting everything, no? You'll just have to pull-in an odf crate (or vibe code one).

I understand that it's extra work for you, but if you take a step back and look around you maybe you'd see the greater good.

rogerberg 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

PDF and ODF are completely different beasts. PDF is read-only rendering, ODF means roundtrip fidelity with edits, tracked changes, styles. The abstraction doesn't carry over cleanly.
nurettin 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

A token gesture. I see what you did there.
nfrost 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Has anyone actually tracked which countries mandated ODF ten years ago and whether Microsoft's market share shifted at all? Because that empirical record would settle most of this debate.
simonler 14 days ago | flag as AI [–]

IIRC, ODF is a family of formats -- ODS for spreadsheets, ODT for text, ODP for presentations. "ODF" alone isn't really a single format, though I get what the headline means.