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I agree with the others: this is literally the perfect implementation of literal Big Brother "your TV watches you" tech - this WILL BE ABUSED by Tech Corps + Governments.
We need to stop building surveilance panopticons!
"it is even conceivable that Norris’s pixels could react to a captured image and, without going through a computer, produce corresponding light patterns."
Great, also they invented a digital mirror (and digital fun house mirror).
This reminds me of approximately 30 years ago. While dabbling in ham radio, I learned that speakers can work in reverse as microphones, and vice versa.
Anyone that says they don't value privacy and they have nothing to hide is never willing to install a livestreaming camera in their bedroom and bathroom.
The telescreen doesn't really add anything to what we have today, with camera and screen separated. Perhaps it will what finally removes the last place of privacy for regular people, their home. It's already happened with smart tvs and voice assistants but supposedly they don't record all the time.
Most phones seem to have working permissions, not to say that people won't allow microphone access, but it isn't the default. Pretty sure that there's no option for microphone all the time, unlike location.
I definitely could see a "scandal" when smart TV manufacturers start adding these to analyze peoples reactions to advertising.
Could you put it past them considering they already record your screen by default?
Is this really as detrimental to privacy as other comments claim? There are already very small cameras which can be used for adversarial purposes. This technology could be useful for many utilitarian purposes.
Software gets you further than a piece of tape ever did. OS-level camera permissions already block webcam access on demand—same model applies here. The "physical cover" argument assumes malicious hardware bypasses the OS, but so could any camera driver already.
A privacy nightmare, this WILL be misused systematically. I used to get excited about new technologies like that, but big tech ruined the future for me.
I can only imagine placing another matching camscreen face to face onto the source one and sending what it sees to a trusted camera-incapable display. But then there is a lot more practical questions and implications..
Doesn't that just move problem back a step though? Trusted display still connects somewhere upstream, and firmware/driver on that camscreen face could misbehave regardless. Air-gapping optical output from optical input seems like the actual hard part, not the display tech.
Worked with similar OLED-photodiode hybrids in a lab a couple years back. Detection side needs way more than a post-it suggests, ambient IR bleed alone tanked our SNR. Real fix is probably firmware-level: force a blanking pulse before capture so sensing window can't overlap active display frames.
Beautiful! No prole will evade the stare of the Big Brother.
P.S. For the offended at "prole" and /s-agnostic parsers: yes that's who you are for the BB, like it or not. And of course there's nothing beautiful in that.
As usual HN is being incredibly alarmist. Cameras are smaller and cheaper, you can even hide them behind the screen itself to make it harder to cover them up.
We literally had selfie cameras in phones using under display cameras. Surveillance doesn't demand the kind of quality people expect of their phone cameras, making the slight degradation tolerable. Stick a couple with large lenses, under the display in the middle and in each quadrant and you'd be seriously harming your viewing experience.
Worked on OLED display drivers few years back, similar-ish emit/sense duality issue but with capacitive touch bleeding into pixel drive lines. Fix wasn't clever materials, was just aggressive time-multiplexing and calibration tables per-panel. Curious if these guys need per-unit calibration too or if it's uniform enough to skip that.
We need to stop building surveilance panopticons!
"it is even conceivable that Norris’s pixels could react to a captured image and, without going through a computer, produce corresponding light patterns."
Great, also they invented a digital mirror (and digital fun house mirror).