A complex structure on S^6 [pdf] (alpo.ge)
65 points by robinhouston 8 days ago | 28 comments



mr_mitm 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

100 pages of dense mathematics created by Claude. It doesn't even have an abstract or a summary. What are we looking at here? Has anyone read this? Please explain like I'm not a math PhD.

fjfaase 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

This kind of papers go way over my head, but recently I was surprised that ChatGTP (free) found the proof for an expression had a square value for some variables. It dug up a relationship from a paper from 2009 and correctly applied it to the case.

The chat: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a7f1b08-b9dc-83ea-b911-aaf8b65f1c...


It seems the trend for AI math is:

>Proofs which fewer and fewer people are able to understand

>Those who do understand, the rate at which models make discoveries exceed the amount of time those humans have in a day

>As a result, we will increasingly use other AI models to validate the proofs AI make for us

I don't see a future where this doesn't apply to everything. Let's say you're an evil CEO, you could ask an AI model to run for days cooking up every possible nefarious scheme to get out of a class-action lawsuit scott-free, to avoid taxes via complex financial engineering, etc. The plans will be far more complex than any human can understand. There simply aren't enough humans with the mental bandwidth to oppose you, so it's just machine vs machine, and if you have more money to pay for more compute, you win.


> It seems the trend for AI math is:

> > Proofs which fewer and fewer people are able to understand

This is the trend for proofs of famous old theorems in general, even pre-AI. Some particularly extreme examples are the proofs of Fermat's Last Theorem [0], the abc conjecture [1], the classification of finite simple groups [2], and the four colour theorem [3].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiles's_proof_of_Fermat's_Last...

[1]: https://mathoverflow.net/questions/232087/have-there-been-an...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_finite_simpl...

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_color_theorem#Proof_by_co...


Tax law is not arbitrarily complicated, and unexpected edge cases are settled by human judges, not by mathematical proofs.

Sure, but that's the disanalogy: legal systems have appeal courts and judicial review precisely because interpretation is contested. Math doesn't have that mechanism, verification is supposed to be objective. If proof-checking needs a "judge," something's gone wrong.

LGTM

I’ve been turning the handle on GPT for weeks, feeding in toy models of physics and seeing what pops out the other end.

It’s mostly this type of mathematics: classifying what high dimensional spaces can and can’t do.

Maths like this is where the AIs will be most useful in the next few years: tirelessly grinding through every possibility on the edge of human knowledge, filling in gaps and completing maps of no-go regions in the theory space.


And in other news (elliptic curve of rank 31): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49412774

Announced by the same people, basically at the same time.


Obviously a Fields Medal–level achievement... Even the most optimistic person would not have expected it to happen so quickly six months ago
dinga 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I skimmed through it. Looks fine. Had a bit of trouble following step 5 of theroem 10.5 (page 89), but after a second look it became all too obvious.
cmenge 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I was more confused by the application of Nakayama’s lemma in the following paragraph, but then it suddenly became clear to me.

Sure, clear till 3am when Nakayama's lemma gets paged because prod ring ain't local anymore. Good luck debugging that one from a beach.

basically trivial.
esafak 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Is this a proof a human could have come up with? Is it elegant? How significant was the human contribution?

christ
gerdesj 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I'm with you. That is quite a dense paper.

I nearly made it through the first line, OK, sentence of what looks like the Intro, which doesn't bother introducing itself and isn't actually the introduction which occurs later.

I can only describe pages one and two as some sort of foreplay. If you manage to hang on until P108 you can dispense with a safe word in future.

eli 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

One word review, still too long for most of us.
akomtu 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

This is a big pile of AI slop. I doubt anyone will ever read it.

You didn't, but still offer meaningless ungrounded doubts.

someone surely will. It's a breakthrough.
ben216 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

"Slop" technically means low-effort mass-produced junk. Even if wrong, paper's tightly written and cites specific constructions, not vibes-based AI filler. Worth skimming before dismissing.
avi 8 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Ran into this same thing trying to grade AI-generated proofs at work, no summary makes it unreviewable. We started requiring a one-paragraph plain english claim up top before accepting any proof for review, saves everyone hours.