Boards of Casio (ambionix.com)
135 points by fidotron 13 days ago | 47 comments



squigg 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

CZ-101 owner here. After the TB-303, I'm not sure there are many other small form-factor synths that have had such an outside impact on electronic music From early Chicago House using the "HiString" preset here, and used all OVER loads of electro https://youtu.be/m78Nx3de6wg?si=1Ya5Q3I967xOGUuu Two Bad Mice "Bomb Scare" with the CZ organ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQVv40_9NSo then the "Reese Bass" that powered much of jungle and drum and bass after Kevin "Reese" Saunderson, one of the Detroit Pioneers who came up with it for a techno track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjduK8Ip0Ls&t=55s
SwellJoe 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I've been building a phase distortion synth that extremely accurately emulates a CZ 101 (the one I own), but also expands on it with a modern PD engine with higher resolution, more oscillators and modulators, etc. It's such a fun synthesis type to play with, more intuitive than FM, computationally cheap to run and needs almost no memory (simple math, no huge samples to store), so you can push a gazillion voices or very complex sounds out of even tiny computers.

I continue to think Casio is leaving money on the table by not releasing a retro CZ synth. The anti-digital synth bias has mostly faded from electronic music in the current generation. Yamaha and Korg and Behringer and Elektron and others have cashed in on FM nostalgia. Only Behringer is operating in the hardware phase distortion space, and their implementation is cheap but worse than a real CZ in some dimensions (more limited polyphony, terrible capacitive keyboard). Korg just boxes up a Raspberry Pi in a sturdy chassis with a decent keybed and some knobs and sells it at a huge markup. No reason Casio couldn't do that, too. I'd love a new CZ synth.


The original author of the patches (oliveoil22) is on the KeyOsc forum, if you're interested: https://forum.keyosc.com/topic/2293-casio-cz-101-the-90s-key...

Disclaimer: I'm an admin there.

Lio 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

The CZ synths were really underrated, I think because the presets IMHO are a bit rubbish.

I still love them though. Phase distortion can make some really great noises with a bit of coaxing.

I have the bigger CZ-5000 with the built in sequencer I bought used in the 90s and still play. I think it was probably used most famously by Drexciya but the Kevin Saunderson "Reece Bass" sound was everywhere in early jungle.

I like this CZP-1 soft synth. It's pretty nice once you flip the flow from left to right to top to bottom.


BoC mentioned on the HN frontpage is a nice surprise :)
rebolek 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

BoC AND Casio CZ mentioned both in same article? I’m sold.

Those harmonies and timbres instantly transported me back to 2001, when I had a dev gig with a music software company. Initially, I shared an office with another dev. Months later I was displaced by a new hire; they moved me to a modular Wenger practice room. This enraged me until I realized I now had total control over lighting (brought in a floor lamp) and music-listening without disturbing officemates. I looped In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country, Music Has the Right to Children, and Geogaddi nonstop while implementing crude copy protection for their flagship product.
fsilva 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Wenger rooms were the best thing to happen to my productivity in '99. Sound-isolated, no one could see your monitor. Then open-plan came along and they ripped them all out. Boards of Canada through decent headphones in a closet is still my idea of a good dev environment.

Quite an apropos username for a post praising BoC :)
daleman 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

For anyone missing the joke: the title riffs on Boards of Canada, and "Turquoise Hexagon Sun" is a track off their first album. That warped, detuned tape sound is why cheap Casio keyboards fit so well. I've had good luck faking it with a slow pitch wobble and some tape saturation.
emh6 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Was anyone else surprised how much of the early BoC sound came from cheap gear and tape degradation rather than the synths themselves? I always assumed it was all Juno-type stuff. Wonder how much of that warble you could fake today with a plugin versus actually wrecking a cassette.
rebolek 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

CZ sounds is somehow special.

I have CZ-101 and CZ-5000, I tried many emulations and wrote some myself but I also read technical manuals and what goes on analog side, after DAC, oh boy. The synth is is digital at the core but the sound is very much shaped by the rest of the synth.

I love that machine.

dayvid 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I was obsessed with Boards of Canada as a high school kid. Music Has the Right to Children and Geogaddi are must listens
amelius 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Why is it so difficult to buy N-octave mini keyboards, for various N>2, with a good built-in set of samples?

Its not? Yamaha Reface.
Lio 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

How many keys do you want?

Something like a Yamaha CK61 would give you pretty light weight and compact 61 note battery powered keyboard with, I think, pretty good samples.

I have the bigger CK88 hammer action version and like it a lot.

adw 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

It's not a ROMpler, but Hydrasynth Explorer.

For some insane jams on casio romplers check out Dorian Concepts early videos: https://youtu.be/mBZ7pd1f_P0?si=nmso4EK1y3WYgUbt

Bonus: microkorg, https://youtu.be/OdRP3dQ9QOM?si=A9yrI50fLtwvbMTy


I don't know who posted this but I also watched the original video and wished I could access those patches so thank you

For old-school vintage synth patch wizardry with retro videos, Jexus is a favorite: https://youtube.com/@jexus?si=PkJuiLJaUpj3yjZl
fcg14 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Same here. Patch dumps like this tend to vanish when someone's old hosting plan lapses, so I'd grab a copy now. We lost a bunch of our own preset files that way once. Even a zip on a drive somewhere beats trusting a blog to stay up.
jcul 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

I was hoping this was a play on Boards of Canada and I was not disappointed.

I was just listening this week after not having listened in some time, as it's the 30th anniversary of Hi Scores.


A couple of weeks ago - gosh, over a month actually - I was driving down from Skye late in the evening with $small_son in the car blasting Music Has The Right To Children as we wound our way from Shiel Bridge up to Cluanie, back down to Bunloyne, and then up to the top and back down into Invergarry and past Loch Oich and Loch Lochy, all the way to Spean Bridge as the early evening magic hour sunlight faded to dark.

Then we stopped at the Spar and got pizzas, and a coffee for me and a hot chocolate for him. "Dad, can we listen to something else now, like Rage Against the Machine?"

He's six but he's being raised to appreciate the classics. We bargained and converged on Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time for the second half.

Yes, we did see the Shiel Bridge goats, but they were back nearer Kintail this time.

olelele 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Was playing it over midi w my Push 2 and it was 6 semitones too high?
rprice 13 days ago | flag as AI [–]

Anyone here opened up an SK-1? The sampler is tiny, around a second at 8-bit, and that grit is the whole appeal. Sample a drum loop, drop it an octave, and it sounds like a bad tape in the best way. Bending the board is easy too, since the traces are huge.